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Andrea, your doubts the questions you raised are legitimate, Serena tried to give an explanation and more information about it.

Unfortunately, as on so many things in Italy, there is no balanced information but most of all that information, instead only creates disinformation.

Again, for all my colleagues, the National Collective Bargaining Agreement is not 'debate and even less is not' been omitted. The proclamations of

FIOM or even less of Confindustria are only for political purposes, each on his side. Click

union today, and 'difficult, once everyone knew the battles to be pursued and the direction to take.

The world of work and 'changed, for better or for worse, so you have to ride the changes and bring in right direction, and this also includes a change of modes and strategies of a modern union.

Pomigliano and 'an example of this change, no one wants to praise the agreement reached, but denied that it had made an agreement notwithstanding Negotiable, but no one has pointed out that notwithstanding the contracts it signed since even the FIOM same.

I am from Naples, I have friends who work in Pomigliano, Fiat or the armature, and last year were on hand, and not as we did with a good integration.

And now I'm back to work, thanks to agreements signed, returned to being human and having dignity.

Pomigliano not stravlto nothing, but for that particular situation, and 'tried to make a different and modern trade union struggle, and we' tried to keep their jobs, giving a future to workers, and in return you and 'tried to give new rules , that would guarantee the property to maintain the production set, ensuring a return on investment.

Pomigliano Give the new panda, and it 'as a future to those workers, let us remember that the panda and' the car more 'sold the group, I'd be worrying, and focus on other plants.

no coincidence, I do not understand the silence and misinformation, instead, Termini Imerese, where Fiat will close the plant, for which no work and no future.

Unfortunately FIOM in politics, I prefer to make the union, and that 'the UILM.

Anyway, I hope to have the opportunity to address the topics discussed in person, if anything, with the assistance of Serena that better than I know these realities. Closed

the way, come to us, we are at the end of September, with the company since the last meeting there was presented an improvement in the situation that has prevented new initiatives.

soon ask for another meeting to analyze the past few months, hoping that the improvements that have been consolidated at last we can say we are out of the tunnel.

At that point, fortunately, we will end up talking about temporary layoffs, but you begin to talk about something else, and I intend to find other suggestions for improving the situation of employees.

I'd like to talk now of wages, set in motion the gears of the increases, which in many cases are stuck at 4, 6 years ago.

Unfortunately I do not think we're still in that situation, but certainly we can deal with new initiatives, which could go to a premium of collective production, by reviewing the value of the ticket, or travel, and more.

would be nice to start a serious discussion about the elimination of absorption for all, not just for the few wage increases provided by the National Labour Contract renewals, and that this is' outrageous.

However, I am aware that request and now it is difficult to obtain, but let's start talking about it, and develop, if any, new proposals that can improve the quality of life, without much impact on the coffers.

So I invite anyone who has ideas to share, and especially urge colleagues dell'amnistrazione and whoever knows his taxes, to find something a bit 'creative finance.

Having more money in 'payroll and certainly' an advantage, but knowing that the company can contribute something to health spending, even for children, or the costs borne by families, I do not know comes to mind kindergarten, would be much more 'important.

I threw them 'some proposals, but I really would be nice if the company we work, can start making a social policy, as in the past many large companies were doing.

A greeting and thanks to all.

Antonio.

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Pomigliano and C.

Andrea dear, dear Antonio, you are within the range of whitefly-employed metalworkers, love to discuss and compare, I hope and I think with an open mind, and yet you are among those to whom the National Collective Bargaining Agreement of 2008 and of 2009 did not bring any money!

What of 2009 has brought (for computer) a commitment: groped them to a sector other than manufacturing, but we do not know if it would take a first step!

The CCNL 2009 he made another very significant, or rather two: he has outlined guidelines for groped to force the "owners" of small businesses do the second-level bargaining, ie redistributing the income is not as nice gift at Christmas but as a right, and it is clear that the audience impacted by these opportunities is huge, forgotten and fragile.

The CCNL 2009 has also established a so-called "bilateral" (unfortunately, the word itself brings pimples to my colleagues in the FIOM), this is a fund started as income support for workers in difficulty, and now, after much debate a kind of health fund to pay benefits like dental specialist eye doctor visits, etc..

We think (the Uilm and me) a good and useful, especially for workers with low incomes, because companies have an obligation to contribute twice to the employee and the return in terms of performance will be significant.

The arrangements for travel, holidays and illness remain unchanged and implemented by CCNL passed since 1972 (also 2008), then the assertion is false that there is no contract, it would be like saying that there 'is the CCNL 1996 0 2000! Unfortunately in the last ten years of contracts signed by FIOM there is only one (but the metal workers have survived the same).

I would comment but a statement of Andrew "not signed by the union of the majority" ... unfortunately the definition does not correspond to the truth: neither nor FIOM fim Uilm nor nor nor shared together represent the majority of metalworkers: metalworkers are distributed for 70% of factories in small size (average 9 people!), no such rights L.300 Workers' Statute, nor anything USW union rights, no meetings or voice ...

Unfortunately, this shows that the referendum as well as some understand it is a hoax: Who would be called to vote does not represent the majority of the workers!

Hence the choice to vote for members, those who paid the expenses for the National Collective Bargaining Agreement.

E 'legitimate that I respond to my subscribers? exactly how I'm with Andrew, with whom I talked at length why it is important to groped on the reasons for a choice and not on slogans but on the face of fact, (and is an invitation ... public, as and when and if want!)

no one has found remarkable that all workers have agreed to increase the contract in January? also entered in FIOM?

the problem is much more complex, everyone knows that unions are not talking about "pure" or unions "sold", here is a different model of industrial relations, the Uilm believes that the conflict should not necessarily be the only weapon in the hands of the worker, does not believe that between capital and labor there is no possibility of mediation.

we think that the factory (not the master ...) is an asset shared between employer and worker, and this should be defended and safeguarded, we believe that if you lose your job we are all losers, and we want to fight because the job remains and ruins in Italy.

This you need to change, because if the union does not change the rules will suffer and prices will be paid by the weakest.

I do not believe in class struggle, I believe that our workers should earn more and work better, I ask all to believe that the FIOM (with us) in some factories has given 21 shifts: mean Saturday and Sunday nights.

but fiat is different, and politics, and class conflict.

I believe in the possibility of sharing certain rules, which go well at Pomigliano (and are fine) but can also help the little factory in the Varese area.

could sign other agreements as Pomigliano?

not. The title of that agreement is Pomigliano, it means that there is, period.

But we could sign something for Termini Imerese if we provide investment and development?

right now, if there was a possibility, but unfortunately Terms will be closed, the fiat does not trust and responsibility for the loss of that work in that area will fall on those who have made the Pomigliano a holy war.

Ascoltatevi "Libera nos Domine" Guccini, I'd use these days as the national anthem.

I really want to, but I'm sure that the debate between us is not closed.

Serena

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Pomigliano A and C.

a dutiful response to the comment made by Andrea Tirelli previous post, where he somewhat criticizes the work of the UILM, on the signing of Pomigliano and the positions taken downstream the decision to Federmeccanica.

I asked Serena to help make the most of the POST, which I attach below, but first I would like my comment. On

Pomigliano and 'written and said so, but as usual the media describes a face of reality, I got to know more, I read the agreement, and I did not find anything unconstitutional, or impairing the freedom of the workers.

In particular, it was' very focused on the fact that the agreement denied the freedom to strike, is false. The agreement prohibits union representatives, should sign an agreement with the company, to strike against the same agreement, (seems logical) but does not prohibit individual employees to do so.

also about the disease, many do not know the situation well in some factories, but it often happens that for some reason (lots, strikes, etc etc) a majority of workers did use it unfairly. Well

seem right, that the company can protect itself, and require a deepening of the causes disease and analyze the individual, but all this only in the presence of abnormal peak of illness. Between ourselves, if one really takes the disease because it 's sick, I do not have to fear anything.

That said 'I'll leave the commentary to Serena.

"We respect the choices of ideological workers, if we do not recognize the signs of their union is better to leave it.

E 'right to grant the right of reply, however, especially on a topic such as contracts which are very sensitive and opens the way to misinformation and manipulation.

from us.

The Uilm (responsibly, I believe) has signed the last Negotiable metalworkers (October 2009) within agreed rules, in the worst of the worst economic crisis in living memory in living memory.

This was achieved without strikes, no fake occupations of highways and expressways, not once.

So have all other categories of industry: chemical, electrical, food, textiles, telecommunications ....

Thanks to shared rules!

All others have done a unit: the other categories have the CGIL (responsibly) gave contracts to its workers, along with categories of the CISL and UIL.

Only FIOM did not want to renew the contract. Over the past 10 years

Fiom also has signed one contract, which Federmeccanica called off last week not to give excuses to anyone.

Fiom not sign contracts nor agreements because it is considered the last bastion of militant leftist, trade union and political confusing, considering that the Berlusconi government is conducive to social peace. The

Uilm other hand believes that a trade union, in this particular historical moment, should first of all to preserve jobs.

careful, WORKSTATIONS, if this results in exceptions (the contract) to the National Collective Bargaining Agreement (which normally occurs in the chemical and metal workers also means a contract of solidarity is an exception, for example) we think that escape is easy, but it is much more courageous to sit at a table and negotiate. A

Pomigliano (fortunately workers Pomigliano) the Uilm is the first union, and the same at Ilva of Taranto, just to name two examples.

If you think it is better to layoffs rather than the regulation of wildcat strikes and disease-post-derby let's face it.

But above all, the colleague who resigned from Uilm ask, read the agreement Pomigliano?

not complicated, 18 items, without destroying the constitution and not reactionary revolutions, there is simply the enforceability of the work and agreements.

Perhaps the difference is that my colleague does not know (beyond that) the conditions of factories, many factories where there is no union and the boss (which still exists) is discarded and the laws!

And then I reassure him and others, let us not be frightened by the terrorist proclamations: metalworkers in Italy have the contract signed by Uilm and Fim, better than the last, which protects workers and female workers, in force and effect regulatory and business, even for the little ones!

defend ourselves, first of all, the lies and ignorance, we maintain with pride our freedom of thought and action, to the left means this: not to say always no! "

Serena Bontempelli
RSU_MILANO

To read:

notified the UIL: http://www.uilm-milano.it/files/2010908contrattofedermeccanica.pdf

Agreement Pomigliano: http:// www.corriere.it/economia/10_giugno_15/testo-accordo-pomigliano-fiat_76d59230-78ab-11df-9d05-00144f02aabe.shtml